![]() ![]() Ngofeen Mputubwele: For Jeanna, some of the associations that come with evangelicalism are very, very warm. Jeanna Kadlec: I love the Es with which we both pulled that out of our bodies and did not need to think. Jeanna Kadlec: Because you did that, I'm going to sing something to you in turn that you may also well know for you. It's more like, I want to sing something and then see if you can join in. Ngofeen Mputubwele: I don't if it's a benediction. Jeanna Kadlec: Yes, a benediction of the last thing. ![]() Before we get started, I just want to sing something. When I went to interview her, our shared background came up very quickly. She and I aren't from the same place, I'm from Tennessee, and she's from the Midwest, but we grew up in the same corner of what we call the Capital C Church. I read a memoir this year by a woman named, Jeanna Kadlec. I produce stories on this show about how we all use language and music and theology, and even law to order the world we live in. And without big donors like Mike Rinder, they make movies like American Heretics: The Politics of the Gospel on a budget of $700,000, start to finish, for release in three theaters this week, and seven more in the coming months.Ngofeen Mputubwele: I'm Ngofeen Mputubwele. There is a significant religious left, but in general they're not as vocal and visible as the rightists, perhaps because they don't feel the same mandate to win converts. And because, even in a dream, God-made-man can only appear as Jesus Christ, per the literalist take, this made it bad. "Faith-based" films take great care never to include elements that would put off the televangelist set, because every once in a while you get a movie like The Shack which, while devoutly pro-God, depicts God appearing as three different human beings in the main character's dream. You're not going to find a John Shelby Spong book in most supposed Christian bookstores, but it's a near-certainty they'll be stocked up with Dr. When Americans talk about "Christian movies" or "Christian bookstores" or "Christian media" or anything like that, it's a sad statement that what they actually mean, mostly, by "Christian," is right-wing evangelical literalism. Women priests ought not to be that radical an idea. ![]()
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